ON~Anon's echoes admitting sneaky vain attacks against TGB. Their loss.. not ours.

[Peter Riden]

yeah PETER...it has always been obvious to me that DAN is more in line
with my thinking than opposed but he sure came lose on me last
week....maybe a bad hair day but at least he sees the full face value
of nakedness in the right way....

My friend John, because I know you... I'm aware of what you're doing
and it's the most successful campaign one could have ever achieved to
unearth the sordid secrets and thwarted thinking of our few uptight
enemies in here... but I'm sure our friend Dan (MacKay...not to
confuse with another Dan of a far more hypocritical slant) did not
have the full scope of why you're here. With you, TGB operation were
never attacked, put down, lied about and anyone knows that TGB offers
an open-minded destination for the non-judgmental and friendly ones.
So if one attacks such destinations or, like Terry, having an intense
if not tragic fixation on an accordion player that came only once in
our 20 years of operation yet that's all she zooms in like others zoom
on children... then you ask what are their true motives and state of
mind. Who is the real enemy of open-mindedness and free thinking.
Certainly not you John but rather those who vehemently look down on
TGB.
In the case of Terry, it's obvious that there is some underlying
serious hatred as not once has she mentioned the guitar player next to
that accordion player. And for the last few years all Terry is fixated
with is that old accordion player. I know he's Terry's old age but
still she could have mentioned the good looking guitar player at least
once..;-) And you can be sure that good looking guitar player has been
featured more than once at TGB... yet... not a beep from Terry on
this. She probably only likes very old musicians..;-)
Anyhow... her problem.. not mine..;-)

.what does concern me is that these
rec nuders seem to think they can set policy as we have seen even the
asa and aanr have not been able to set policy.....and i am dumfounded
that a few club and camp owners have not visited rec nude to set that
record straight....

I believe that most clubs are slowly shifting towards my modus
operandi, John... so they don't want to be found following what I've
steadily pioneered for that many years in case some would attack and
insinuate any sordid scenarios against themt. D
They don't all have my determination to take the enemies head on. Tony
and Kathy can easily do as I do but not too many others.
Just think the episode of Candy Mejia and Terra Cotta Inn. Rather than
standing up tall to conservative ones she sucked up to them and now
she's out of the picture. Neither Candy nor owner Tom were able to put
it like it is as I do. They preferred hypocrisy to making it
straightforward. and these are the double standards that you have long
talked about, John.

opinions are great but i can tell you that in my
nude dance clubs i always told the management....you know how i feel
about my clientele so run a tight ship and i will not have to over
rule your decisions.....the owners are the ones with their hard earned
dollars invested and they are the last word and that is good because i
find they do make good decisions on policy that works well for all
concerned....the season is beginning to open up for the fun folks so
heres hoping for a good one for you...regards...john

Well observed and that's why,, in whichever way owners operate as long
as they don't cave under attacks and stand up for what they believe
in... that's good with me.
So far so good for the start of this season at THE GRAND BARN, my
friend, John.
And it can only only get better. Don't forget that the new generation
is being more visible in the TGB operating mode.
Many new ideas might make it even more distressing for our few
enemies.
Till your next beep, my friend..;-)

http://www.myspace.com/conceptpeterriden
http://ca.youtube.com/user/PeterRiden
In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}
http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-network.com
T.W.A.N.'s very own Online Travel Agency
http://www.twanvacations.com
And opportunities:http://www.ytb.com/twanvacations
{TGB Conceptor}:http://www.the-grand-barn.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Grand-Barn
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheGrandBarn

[Zee]

Post by Peter Riden

with my thinking than opposed but he sure came lose on me last
week....maybe a bad hair day but at least he sees the full face value
of nakedness in the right way....

My friend John, because I know you... I'm aware of what you're doing
and it's the most successful campaign one could have ever achieved to
unearth the sordid secrets and thwarted thinking of our few uptight
enemies in here... but I'm sure our friend Dan (MacKay...not to
confuse with another Dan of a far more hypocritical slant) did not
have the full scope of why you're here. With you, TGB operation were
never attacked, put down, lied about and anyone knows that TGB offers
an open-minded destination for the non-judgmental and friendly ones.
So if one attacks such destinations or, like Terry, having an intense
if not tragic fixation on an accordion player that came only once in
our 20 years of operation yet that's all she zooms in like others zoom
on children... then you ask what are their true motives and state of
mind. Who is the real enemy of open-mindedness and free thinking.
Certainly not you John but rather those who vehemently look down on
TGB.
In the case of Terry, it's obvious that there is some underlying
serious hatred as not once has she mentioned the guitar player next to
that accordion player. And for the last few years all Terry is fixated
with is that old accordion player. I know he's Terry's old age but
still she could have mentioned the good looking guitar player at least
once..;-) And you can be sure that good looking guitar player has been
featured more than once at TGB... yet... not a beep from Terry on
this. She probably only likes very old musicians..;-)
Anyhow... her problem.. not mine..;-)

.what does concern me is that these
rec nuders seem to think they can set policy as we have seen even the
asa and aanr have not been able to set policy.....and i am dumfounded
that a few club and camp owners have not visited rec nude to set that
record straight....

I believe that most clubs are slowly shifting towards my modus
operandi, John... so they don't want to be found following what I've
steadily pioneered for that many years in case some would attack and
insinuate any sordid scenarios against themt. D
They don't all have my determination to take the enemies head on. Tony
and Kathy can easily do as I do but not too many others.
Just think the episode of Candy Mejia and Terra Cotta Inn. Rather than
standing up tall to conservative ones she sucked up to them and now
she's out of the picture. Neither Candy nor owner Tom were able to put
it like it is as I do. They preferred hypocrisy to making it
straightforward. and these are the double standards that you have long
talked about, John.

opinions are great but i can tell you that in my
nude dance clubs i always told the management....you know how i feel
about my clientele so run a tight ship and i will not have to over
rule your decisions.....the owners are the ones with their hard earned
dollars invested and they are the last word and that is good because i
find they do make good decisions on policy that works well for all
concerned....the season is beginning to open up for the fun folks so
heres hoping for a good one for you...regards...john

Well observed and that's why,, in whichever way owners operate as long
as they don't cave under attacks and stand up for what they believe
in... that's good with me.
So far so good for the start of this season at THE GRAND BARN, my
friend, John.
And it can only only get better. Don't forget that the new generation
is being more visible in the TGB operating mode.
Many new ideas might make it even more distressing for our few
enemies.
Till your next beep, my friend..;-)

http://www.myspace.com/conceptpeterriden
http://ca.youtube.com/user/PeterRiden
In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}
http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-network.com
T.W.A.N.'s very own Online Travel Agency
http://www.twanvacations.com
And opportunities:http://www.ytb.com/twanvacations
{TGB Conceptor}:http://www.the-grand-barn.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Grand-Barn
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheGrandBarn- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

well Peter..you have a leg up on the game...most folks do not have the
luxury of son or daughter to manage for them...and you have to pick
from the scrap pile of folks that hang around or work in the business
and then the problem is the management will favor the employees and
you cant fool the clientele....one nudist camp owner told me after
about ten years in his business ...that he had been in several
different businesses and the nude recreation business is the most
confounded of all....i can truly believe that....it seems like a
constant moving target...as we see here in rec nude ...these tribal
members can not agree on anything unanamous....but life goes on....jz

[Peter Riden]

Post by Zee

Post by Peter Riden

with my thinking than opposed but he sure came lose on me last
week....maybe a bad hair day but at least he sees the full face value
of nakedness in the right way....

My friend John, because I know you... I'm aware of what you're doing
and it's the most successful campaign one could have ever achieved to
unearth the sordid secrets and thwarted thinking of our few uptight
enemies in here... but I'm sure our friend Dan (MacKay...not to
confuse with another Dan of a far more hypocritical slant) did not
have the full scope of why you're here. With you, TGB operation were
never attacked, put down, lied about and anyone knows that TGB offers
an open-minded destination for the non-judgmental and friendly ones.
So if one attacks such destinations or, like Terry, having an intense
if not tragic fixation on an accordion player that came only once in
our 20 years of operation yet that's all she zooms in like others zoom
on children... then you ask what are their true motives and state of
mind. Who is the real enemy of open-mindedness and free thinking.
Certainly not you John but rather those who vehemently look down on
TGB.
In the case of Terry, it's obvious that there is some underlying
serious hatred as not once has she mentioned the guitar player next to
that accordion player. And for the last few years all Terry is fixated
with is that old accordion player. I know he's Terry's old age but
still she could have mentioned the good looking guitar player at least
once..;-) And you can be sure that good looking guitar player has been
featured more than once at TGB... yet... not a beep from Terry on
this. She probably only likes very old musicians..;-)
Anyhow... her problem.. not mine..;-)

.what does concern me is that these
rec nuders seem to think they can set policy as we have seen even the
asa and aanr have not been able to set policy.....and i am dumfounded
that a few club and camp owners have not visited rec nude to set that
record straight....

I believe that most clubs are slowly shifting towards my modus
operandi, John... so they don't want to be found following what I've
steadily pioneered for that many years in case some would attack and
insinuate any sordid scenarios against themt. D
They don't all have my determination to take the enemies head on. Tony
and Kathy can easily do as I do but not too many others.
Just think the episode of Candy Mejia and Terra Cotta Inn. Rather than
standing up tall to conservative ones she sucked up to them and now
she's out of the picture. Neither Candy nor owner Tom were able to put
it like it is as I do. They preferred hypocrisy to making it
straightforward. and these are the double standards that you have long
talked about, John.

opinions are great but i can tell you that in my
nude dance clubs i always told the management....you know how i feel
about my clientele so run a tight ship and i will not have to over
rule your decisions.....the owners are the ones with their hard earned
dollars invested and they are the last word and that is good because i
find they do make good decisions on policy that works well for all
concerned....the season is beginning to open up for the fun folks so
heres hoping for a good one for you...regards...john

Well observed and that's why,, in whichever way owners operate as long
as they don't cave under attacks and stand up for what they believe
in... that's good with me.
So far so good for the start of this season at THE GRAND BARN, my
friend, John.
And it can only only get better. Don't forget that the new generation
is being more visible in the TGB operating mode.
Many new ideas might make it even more distressing for our few
enemies.
Till your next beep, my friend..;-)

http://www.myspace.com/conceptpeterriden
http://ca.youtube.com/user/PeterRiden
In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}
http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-network.com
T.W.A.N.'s very own Online Travel Agency
http://www.twanvacations.com
And opportunities:http://www.ytb.com/twanvacations
{TGB Conceptor}:http://www.the-grand-barn.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Grand-Barn
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheGrandBarn-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

well Peter..you have a leg up on the game...most folks do not have the
luxury of son or daughter to manage for them...and you have to pick
from the scrap pile of folks that hang around or work in the business
and then the problem is the management will favor the employees and
you cant fool the clientele....one nudist camp owner told me after
about ten years in his business ...that he had been in several
different businesses and the nude recreation business is the most
confounded of all....i can truly believe that....it seems like a
constant moving target...as we see here in rec nude ...these tribal
members can not agree on anything unanimous....but life goes on....jz

Another accurate observation, John.
True that any of us welcoming Nudity on our grounds have to deal with
a variety of people who are absolutely not in the mold alleged by the
few tribal members. As I wrote before, because we know of such
demographic we act in consequence and get better and more realistic
results.
And the big children understand very well this equation and are best
prepared to "manage" as you rightly put it..;-)
And they come with plenty of fresh ideas, my friend..;-)
They'll probably like that you wrote this, John: "AND AND AND IF YOU
ARE LOOKING FOR NATURISM OR NUDISM OR CLOTHING
OPTIONAL but not family friendly where kids abound....then give TGB a
try in canada...."
Life goes on, indeed!!
http://www.myspace.com/conceptpeterriden
http://ca.youtube.com/user/PeterRiden

In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}
http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-network.com
T.W.A.N.'s very own Online Travel Agency
http://www.twanvacations.com
And opportunities: http://www.ytb.com/twanvacations
{TGB Conceptor}: http://www.the-grand-barn.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Grand-Barn
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheGrandBarn

[TheWhiteCockatoo]

Hi Peter,

You and I, and countless others, know and understand that the Adult
market totally dwarfs the Nude market anywhere in the world.

However an aspect of that Adult market are at ease with nudity, which
please us both greatly, and is why our businesses continue to flourish
and grow as we move with changing times and demographics.

Whilst you and I take a slightly different approach, and offer
somewhat different products, we are both targeting similar markets and
providing an ideal product for them in our own way to best suit our
respective businesses.

In our case we adopt a seasonal approach, to best cater for all
markets and demographics at different times, but there is no doubt the
successful future of my property is being improved dramatically with
our Adults Only seasons. Perhaps in time (and perhaps not a long time)
we'll be much like you in doing one thing all year round.

Yes, For part of the year we are a Nudist Resort, and happy and able
to call ourselves such! During our Nudist Resort time we operate as a
"pure" nudist venue with all usual methods of operation in place as
found at any other similar property throughout the world.

Just because we operate differently at other times doesn't mean I'm
going to stop using the Nudist Resort description for the applicable
months, and nor can anyone anywhere have any influence on me doing so!

Like you, Peter, I'm proud to always explain my business operations to
those who care to listen. I do struggle with the ignorant and ill-
informed making silly judgements though, but have learned to ignore
them over the years.

I look forward to going for as long as you have at The Grand Barn in
my Adults / Nudist enterprise and as always congratulate you on your
continued success and pride in your product.

Kind Regards

Tony Fox

@ The World Famous White Cockatoo
w: http://www.tropicsfun.com
e: ***@thewhitecockatoo.com

[Peter Riden]

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
Hi Peter,
You and I, and countless others, know and understand that the Adult
market totally dwarfs the Nude market anywhere in the world.
However an aspect of that Adult market are at ease with nudity, which
please us both greatly, and is why our businesses continue to flourish
and grow as we move with changing times and demographics.
Whilst you and I take a slightly different approach, and offer
somewhat different products, we are both targeting similar markets and
providing an ideal product for them in our own way to best suit our
respective businesses.
In our case we adopt a seasonal approach, to best cater for all
markets and demographics at different times, but there is no doubt the
successful future of my property is being improved dramatically with
our Adults Only seasons. Perhaps in time (and perhaps not a long time)
we'll be much like you in doing one thing all year round.
Yes, For part of the year we are a Nudist Resort, and happy and able
to call ourselves such! During our Nudist Resort time we operate as a
"pure" nudist venue with all usual methods of operation in place as
found at any other similar property throughout the world.
Just because we operate differently at other times doesn't mean I'm
going to stop using the Nudist Resort description for the applicable
months, and nor can anyone anywhere have any influence on me doing so!
Like you, Peter, I'm proud to always explain my business operations to
those who care to listen. I do struggle with the ignorant and ill-
informed making silly judgements though, but have learned to ignore
them over the years.
I look forward to going for as long as you have at The Grand Barn in
my Adults / Nudist enterprise and as always congratulate you on your
continued success and pride in your product.
Kind Regards
Tony Fox
@ The World Famous White Cockatoo
w:http://www.tropicsfun.com

Very well received, my friend, Tony.
You will go as long as I've been going on because you are realistic
when it comes to welcoming Nudity on your grounds.
We may have few detractors but the majority of people welcome what we
present.
As for "Just because we operate differently at other times doesn't
mean I'm going to stop using the Nudist Resort description for the
applicable months, and nor can anyone anywhere have any influence on
me doing so!" I have often mentioned that although the moniker
"nudist" is not of importance to me, it is well observed that many
tend to envision nudism the way our lifestyle is presented at THE
GRAND BARN and not the way our few "ignorant and ill-informed making
silly judgments" opponents claim it is. Therefore, you are most
welcome to use what you see fit when the majority endorses your
presentation, Tony.
Same here, as I wrote before, I will not stop catering to those who
identify themselves as nudists with the frame of mind of what is
offered on both our sides.
And I can also be found in forum using these "ism" presentations as I
do with our friends of the swinging community and other alternative
lifestyles.
Keep up the good work, my friend.
http://www.myspace.com/conceptpeterriden
http://ca.youtube.com/user/PeterRiden

In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-
network.com
T.W.A.N.'s very own Online Travel Agencyhttp://www.twanvacations.com
And opportunities:http://www.ytb.com/twanvacations
{TGB Conceptor}:http://www.the-grand-barn.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Grand-Barn
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheGrandBarn

[Dan MacKay]

Post by Peter Riden

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
Hi Peter,
You and I, and countless others, know and understand that the Adult
market totally dwarfs the Nude market anywhere in the world.
However an aspect of that Adult market are at ease with nudity, which
please us both greatly, and is why our businesses continue to flourish
and grow as we move with changing times and demographics.
Whilst you and I take a slightly different approach, and offer
somewhat different products, we are both targeting similar markets and
providing an ideal product for them in our own way to best suit our
respective businesses.
In our case we adopt a seasonal approach, to best cater for all
markets and demographics at different times, but there is no doubt the
successful future of my property is being improved dramatically with
our Adults Only seasons. Perhaps in time (and perhaps not a long time)
we'll be much like you in doing one thing all year round.
Yes, For part of the year we are a Nudist Resort, and happy and able
to call ourselves such! During our Nudist Resort time we operate as a
"pure" nudist venue with all usual methods of operation in place as
found at any other similar property throughout the world.
Just because we operate differently at other times doesn't mean I'm
going to stop using the Nudist Resort description for the applicable
months, and nor can anyone anywhere have any influence on me doing so!
Like you, Peter, I'm proud to always explain my business operations to
those who care to listen. I do struggle with the ignorant and ill-
informed making silly judgements though, but have learned to ignore
them over the years.
I look forward to going for as long as you have at The Grand Barn in
my Adults / Nudist enterprise and as always congratulate you on your
continued success and pride in your product.
Kind Regards
Tony Fox
@ The World Famous White Cockatoo
w:http://www.tropicsfun.com

Very well received, my friend, Tony.
You will go as long as I've been going on because you are realistic
when it comes to welcoming Nudity on your grounds.
We may have few detractors but the majority of people welcome what we
present.
As for "Just because we operate differently at other times doesn't
mean I'm going to stop using the Nudist Resort description for the
applicable months, and nor can anyone anywhere have any influence on
me doing so!" I have often mentioned that although the moniker
"nudist" is not of importance to me, it is well observed that many
tend to envision nudism the way our lifestyle is presented at THE
GRAND BARN and not the way our few "ignorant and ill-informed making
silly judgments" opponents claim it is. Therefore, you are most
welcome to use what you see fit when the majority endorses your
presentation, Tony.
Same here, as I wrote before, I will not stop catering to those who
identify themselves as nudists with the frame of mind of what is
offered on both our sides.
And I can also be found in forum using these "ism" presentations as I
do with our friends of the swinging community and other alternative
lifestyles.
Keep up the good work, my friend.http://www.myspace.com/conceptpeterridenhttp://ca.youtube.com/user/PeterRiden
In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-
network.com
T.W.A.N.'s very own Online Travel Agencyhttp://www.twanvacations.com
And opportunities:http://www.ytb.com/twanvacations
{TGB Conceptor}:http://www.the-grand-barn.comhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Grand-Barnhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheGrandBarn- Hide quoted text -
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Peter, I think you and Tony have the best concept for Nudist Resorts.
These are the type that I think have long temr potential, unlike the
ones that restrict themselves out of existance and kowtow to
"Associations" on how their business should be run.

The only Authority that you should have to listen to is the Law and if
it isn't illegal......

[TheWhiteCockatoo]

Post by Dan MacKay

Post by Peter Riden

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
Hi Peter,
You and I, and countless others, know and understand that the Adult
market totally dwarfs the Nude market anywhere in the world.
However an aspect of that Adult market are at ease with nudity, which
please us both greatly, and is why our businesses continue to flourish
and grow as we move with changing times and demographics.
Whilst you and I take a slightly different approach, and offer
somewhat different products, we are both targeting similar markets and
providing an ideal product for them in our own way to best suit our
respective businesses.
In our case we adopt a seasonal approach, to best cater for all
markets and demographics at different times, but there is no doubt the
successful future of my property is being improved dramatically with
our Adults Only seasons. Perhaps in time (and perhaps not a long time)
we'll be much like you in doing one thing all year round.
Yes, For part of the year we are a Nudist Resort, and happy and able
to call ourselves such! During our Nudist Resort time we operate as a
"pure" nudist venue with all usual methods of operation in place as
found at any other similar property throughout the world.
Just because we operate differently at other times doesn't mean I'm
going to stop using the Nudist Resort description for the applicable
months, and nor can anyone anywhere have any influence on me doing so!
Like you, Peter, I'm proud to always explain my business operations to
those who care to listen. I do struggle with the ignorant and ill-
informed making silly judgements though, but have learned to ignore
them over the years.
I look forward to going for as long as you have at The Grand Barn in
my Adults / Nudist enterprise and as always congratulate you on your
continued success and pride in your product.
Kind Regards
Tony Fox
@ The World Famous White Cockatoo
w:http://www.tropicsfun.com

Very well received, my friend, Tony.
You will go as long as I've been going on because you are realistic
when it comes to welcoming Nudity on your grounds.
We may have few detractors but the majority of people welcome what we
present.
As for "Just because we operate differently at other times doesn't
mean I'm going to stop using the Nudist Resort description for the
applicable months, and nor can anyone anywhere have any influence on
me doing so!" I have often mentioned that although the moniker
"nudist" is not of importance to me, it is well observed that many
tend to envision nudism the way our lifestyle is presented at THE
GRAND BARN and not the way our few "ignorant and ill-informed making
silly judgments" opponents claim it is. Therefore, you are most
welcome to use what you see fit when the majority endorses your
presentation, Tony.
Same here, as I wrote before, I will not stop catering to those who
identify themselves as nudists with the frame of mind of what is
offered on both our sides.
And I can also be found in forum using these "ism" presentations as I
do with our friends of the swinging community and other alternative
lifestyles.
Keep up the good work, my friend.http://www.myspace.com/conceptpeterridenhttp://ca.youtube.com/user/Pe...
In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-
network.com
T.W.A.N.'s very own Online Travel Agencyhttp://www.twanvacations.com
And opportunities:http://www.ytb.com/twanvacations
{TGB Conceptor}:http://www.the-grand-barn.comhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Grand-...Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Peter, I think you and Tony have the best concept for Nudist Resorts.
These are the type that I think have long temr potential, unlike the
ones that restrict themselves out of existance and kowtow to
"Associations" on how their business should be run.
The only Authority that you should have to listen to is the Law and if
it isn't illegal......- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Yes, Totally legal in every aspect here Dan,

I'd be a little silly to put my head up as high and often as I do
without having all licences, permits, and insurances in place to
operate as I do.

And I believe the same applies to Peter, at The Grand Barn.

Not only are we totally legit, in every way, we are also the ONLY
Aussie Nudist Property to have a Liquor Licence and a AAA Tourism Star
Rating (3 Star).

Neither of which are easy to attain, or even retain, however having
attained both 7 years ago, with an assessment from each in recent
weeks giving a big pass, both provide further testament to the
legitimacy, well managed, professionalism of our business operation.

Yes, We are unique in many ways.... but in all ways providing great
fun in the sun :-)

Cheers

Tony Fox

@ The World Famous White Cockatoo
w: http://www.tropicsfun.com
e: ***@thewhitecockatoo.com

[Dan MacKay]

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo

Post by Dan MacKay

Post by Peter Riden

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
Hi Peter,
You and I, and countless others, know and understand that the Adult
market totally dwarfs the Nude market anywhere in the world.
However an aspect of that Adult market are at ease with nudity, which
please us both greatly, and is why our businesses continue to flourish
and grow as we move with changing times and demographics.
Whilst you and I take a slightly different approach, and offer
somewhat different products, we are both targeting similar markets and
providing an ideal product for them in our own way to best suit our
respective businesses.
In our case we adopt a seasonal approach, to best cater for all
markets and demographics at different times, but there is no doubt the
successful future of my property is being improved dramatically with
our Adults Only seasons. Perhaps in time (and perhaps not a long time)
we'll be much like you in doing one thing all year round.
Yes, For part of the year we are a Nudist Resort, and happy and able
to call ourselves such! During our Nudist Resort time we operate as a
"pure" nudist venue with all usual methods of operation in place as
found at any other similar property throughout the world.
Just because we operate differently at other times doesn't mean I'm
going to stop using the Nudist Resort description for the applicable
months, and nor can anyone anywhere have any influence on me doing so!
Like you, Peter, I'm proud to always explain my business operations to
those who care to listen. I do struggle with the ignorant and ill-
informed making silly judgements though, but have learned to ignore
them over the years.
I look forward to going for as long as you have at The Grand Barn in
my Adults / Nudist enterprise and as always congratulate you on your
continued success and pride in your product.
Kind Regards
Tony Fox
@ The World Famous White Cockatoo
w:http://www.tropicsfun.com

Very well received, my friend, Tony.
You will go as long as I've been going on because you are realistic
when it comes to welcoming Nudity on your grounds.
We may have few detractors but the majority of people welcome what we
present.
As for "Just because we operate differently at other times doesn't
mean I'm going to stop using the Nudist Resort description for the
applicable months, and nor can anyone anywhere have any influence on
me doing so!" I have often mentioned that although the moniker
"nudist" is not of importance to me, it is well observed that many
tend to envision nudism the way our lifestyle is presented at THE
GRAND BARN and not the way our few "ignorant and ill-informed making
silly judgments" opponents claim it is. Therefore, you are most
welcome to use what you see fit when the majority endorses your
presentation, Tony.
Same here, as I wrote before, I will not stop catering to those who
identify themselves as nudists with the frame of mind of what is
offered on both our sides.
And I can also be found in forum using these "ism" presentations as I
do with our friends of the swinging community and other alternative
lifestyles.
Keep up the good work, my friend.http://www.myspace.com/conceptpeterridenhttp://ca.youtube.com/user/Pe...
In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-
network.com
T.W.A.N.'s very own Online Travel Agencyhttp://www.twanvacations.com
And opportunities:http://www.ytb.com/twanvacations
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Peter, I think you and Tony have the best concept for Nudist Resorts.
These are the type that I think have long temr potential, unlike the
ones that restrict themselves out of existance and kowtow to
"Associations" on how their business should be run.
The only Authority that you should have to listen to is the Law and if
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Yes, Totally legal in every aspect here Dan,
I'd be a little silly to put my head up as high and often as I do
without having all licences, permits, and insurances in place to
operate as I do.
And I believe the same applies to Peter, at The Grand Barn.
Not only are we totally legit, in every way, we are also the ONLY
Aussie Nudist Property to have a Liquor Licence and a AAA Tourism Star
Rating (3 Star).
Neither of which are easy to attain, or even retain, however having
attained both 7 years ago, with an assessment from each in recent
weeks giving a big pass, both provide further testament to the
legitimacy, well managed, professionalism of our business operation.
Yes, We are unique in many ways.... but in all ways providing great
fun in the sun :-)
Cheers
Tony Fox
@ The World Famous White Cockatoo
w:http://www.tropicsfun.com
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If the Law has no complaint than groups like AANR or whatever you have
in your region should keep their noses out of other peoples
businesses.

I wouldn't tolerate someone trying to tell me how to run my business.

[Zee]

i know the feeling...i had the police coming at me from one direction
and the mafia from the other and i resisted all of em....the cash
register sales go up and you laugh all the way to the bank....jz

Post by Dan MacKay

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo

Post by Dan MacKay

Post by Peter Riden

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
Hi Peter,
You and I, and countless others, know and understand that the Adult
market totally dwarfs the Nude market anywhere in the world.
However an aspect of that Adult market are at ease with nudity, which
please us both greatly, and is why our businesses continue to flourish
and grow as we move with changing times and demographics.
Whilst you and I take a slightly different approach, and offer
somewhat different products, we are both targeting similar markets and
providing an ideal product for them in our own way to best suit our
respective businesses.
In our case we adopt a seasonal approach, to best cater for all
markets and demographics at different times, but there is no doubt the
successful future of my property is being improved dramatically with
our Adults Only seasons. Perhaps in time (and perhaps not a long time)
we'll be much like you in doing one thing all year round.
Yes, For part of the year we are a Nudist Resort, and happy and able
to call ourselves such! During our Nudist Resort time we operate as a
"pure" nudist venue with all usual methods of operation in place as
found at any other similar property throughout the world.
Just because we operate differently at other times doesn't mean I'm
going to stop using the Nudist Resort description for the applicable
months, and nor can anyone anywhere have any influence on me doing so!
Like you, Peter, I'm proud to always explain my business operations to
those who care to listen. I do struggle with the ignorant and ill-
informed making silly judgements though, but have learned to ignore
them over the years.
I look forward to going for as long as you have at The Grand Barn in
my Adults / Nudist enterprise and as always congratulate you on your
continued success and pride in your product.
Kind Regards
Tony Fox
@ The World Famous White Cockatoo
w:http://www.tropicsfun.com

Very well received, my friend, Tony.
You will go as long as I've been going on because you are realistic
when it comes to welcoming Nudity on your grounds.
We may have few detractors but the majority of people welcome what we
present.
As for "Just because we operate differently at other times doesn't
mean I'm going to stop using the Nudist Resort description for the
applicable months, and nor can anyone anywhere have any influence on
me doing so!" I have often mentioned that although the moniker
"nudist" is not of importance to me, it is well observed that many
tend to envision nudism the way our lifestyle is presented at THE
GRAND BARN and not the way our few "ignorant and ill-informed making
silly judgments" opponents claim it is. Therefore, you are most
welcome to use what you see fit when the majority endorses your
presentation, Tony.
Same here, as I wrote before, I will not stop catering to those who
identify themselves as nudists with the frame of mind of what is
offered on both our sides.
And I can also be found in forum using these "ism" presentations as I
do with our friends of the swinging community and other alternative
lifestyles.
Keep up the good work, my friend.http://www.myspace.com/conceptpeterridenhttp://ca.youtube.com/user/Pe...
In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-
network.com
T.W.A.N.'s very own Online Travel Agencyhttp://www.twanvacations.com
And opportunities:http://www.ytb.com/twanvacations
{TGB Conceptor}:http://www.the-grand-barn.comhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Grand-...quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Peter, I think you and Tony have the best concept for Nudist Resorts.
These are the type that I think have long temr potential, unlike the
ones that restrict themselves out of existance and kowtow to
"Associations" on how their business should be run.
The only Authority that you should have to listen to is the Law and if
it isn't illegal......- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Yes, Totally legal in every aspect here Dan,
I'd be a little silly to put my head up as high and often as I do
without having all licences, permits, and insurances in place to
operate as I do.
And I believe the same applies to Peter, at The Grand Barn.
Not only are we totally legit, in every way, we are also the ONLY
Aussie Nudist Property to have a Liquor Licence and a AAA Tourism Star
Rating (3 Star).
Neither of which are easy to attain, or even retain, however having
attained both 7 years ago, with an assessment from each in recent
weeks giving a big pass, both provide further testament to the
legitimacy, well managed, professionalism of our business operation.
Yes, We are unique in many ways.... but in all ways providing great
fun in the sun :-)
Cheers
Tony Fox
@ The World Famous White Cockatoo
w:http://www.tropicsfun.com
- Show quoted text -

If the Law has no complaint than groups like AANR or whatever you have
in your region should keep their noses out of other peoples
businesses.
I wouldn't tolerate someone trying to tell me how to run my business.