Let people choose where they want to go vacationing. Out go the prudes!!

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=664143
I don't know why this guy constantly gets media attention. His
activities and his establishment does nothing to hurt the already
fragile state of nudism in Australia.

Dario Western,
You Poor Sad Keyboard Jockey…
If you are an example, self-described of course, of an Australian
Nudist Activist then I truly feel very sorry for ALL Australian
Nudists!
Do you not think that if there was ever any basis in fact of any of
the comments you have constantly been making online since 2004 about
either my business, The White Cockatoo, or myself personally, Tony
Fox, I would have been closed down by now by the appropriate
authorities???
Heads up Dario… The authorities have watched me for years, and in
doing so have developed a very clear and supportive understanding
about my methods of operation.
You might want to start being very careful, Dario, about authorities
that might now be taking a great deal of interest in yourself…
especially when a little research reveals how many posts you place in
numerous online groups that clearly indicate an obsession with sexual
topics, usually with younger people involved!
Dario has never met me, let alone been to The White Cockatoo, and nor
would he or anybody of his "type" be welcome!
Just another sad keyboard jockey who has nothing better to do in life,
and certainly nothing better to ride than his ever friendly
keyboard….
The picture aint pretty
And just to clarify for all…
The White Cockatoo has distinct seasons of operation.
If the season don’t suit you… Then don’t visit then, and sure as hell
don’t make stupid comments about seasons that don’t even concern you!
It’s All Very Clearly Shown And Explained Viahttp://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/
But never let the facts get in the way of a good story Dario…. Pity
you didn’t have more pull, other than just on yourself
ANF??? Who?
We are about Fun In The Sun with seasons to suit all, but
unfortunately none to suit ANF people....
Oh well....
Tony Fox

My Friend Tony,
As written before, "Let people choose where they want to go
vacationing. Out go the prudes!!"
Dario is helping for the publicity... even Anna has made sure that the
articles presenting your open-minded event for March 2009 be
repeatedly well read by the passers by in the newsgroups. As I also
mentioned to Dario... "You know (or should) that Charles (MacFarland)
and I have no problems at all with
THE WHITE COCkATOO at http://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/GuestComments.html
"
and that many people can't be wrong when praising what you're doing,
Tony.
I don't flirt with the enemy... and Dario is not the big problem...
he's slowly learning that those who are against us can also be against
him in a whim.
I can take different views but I strongly stand up against personal
attacks.
The Little Tribe has long discovered that. And you, Tony, share that
same fortitude, my friend.
Till the next beep!
http://www.myspace.com/conceptpeterriden
In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}
http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-network.com
T.W.A.N.'s very own Online Travel Agency
http://www.twanvacations.com
{TGB Conceptor}: http://www.the-grand-barn.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Grand-Barn
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheGrandBarn

Neosapienis

2008-12-04 22:23:50 UTC

Tony,

You watch your mouth, mate. I do *not* condone child abuse or swinging at
nudist places. In fact I bring such discrepancies to light.

Your establishment has had numerous problems with misbehaviour in the past
from swingers where you had had the police eject them. Did you not learn
your lesson the first time? If not, it seems to me that you are just a
money making opportunist and exploiting the name of nudism to fuel your
sexual agendas. The Australian nudist scene does not want or need people
like you involved in it. Stay with your own kind and leave nudism out of
your business. What you are doing is not illegal, but it is not ethical.

As for the 'authorities' - I have NEVER had any convictions recorded against
me regarding my nudist activities or my conduct with young people. Ever.
So you'd be wasting their time as well.

If you are going to run a nudist club then keep it nudist all year round.
That's all I have to say on the matter. It's mixing or associating it with
swinging which prevents the majority of Australians from taking part in
organised nude activities at large, especially younger ones who are more
sexually conservative than those in the 60's and 70's were. And I'm pretty
sure that most Australian nudists would agree with me on this.
--
Best wishes,

Dario Western

(0437) 428-859
http://www.myspace.com/fatpizzaman
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dario Western,
You Poor Sad Keyboard Jockey
If you are an example, self-described of course, of an Australian
Nudist Activist then I truly feel very sorry for ALL Australian
Nudists!
Do you not think that if there was ever any basis in fact of any of
the comments you have constantly been making online since 2004 about
either my business, The White Cockatoo, or myself personally, Tony
Fox, I would have been closed down by now by the appropriate
authorities???
Heads up Dario The authorities have watched me for years, and in
doing so have developed a very clear and supportive understanding
about my methods of operation.
You might want to start being very careful, Dario, about authorities
that might now be taking a great deal of interest in yourself
especially when a little research reveals how many posts you place in
numerous online groups that clearly indicate an obsession with sexual
topics, usually with younger people involved!
Dario has never met me, let alone been to The White Cockatoo, and nor
would he or anybody of his "type" be welcome!
Just another sad keyboard jockey who has nothing better to do in life,
and certainly nothing better to ride than his ever friendly
keyboard.
The picture aint pretty
And just to clarify for all
The White Cockatoo has distinct seasons of operation.
If the season dont suit you Then dont visit then, and sure as hell
dont make stupid comments about seasons that dont even concern you!
Its All Very Clearly Shown And Explained
Viahttp://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/
But never let the facts get in the way of a good story Dario. Pity
you didnt have more pull, other than just on yourself
ANF??? Who?
We are about Fun In The Sun with seasons to suit all, but
unfortunately none to suit ANF people....
Oh well....
Tony Fox

TheWhiteCockatoo

2008-12-05 06:10:36 UTC

You truly pitiful misguided fool Dario Western!

And if you think I am intimidated by you in any way at all you are
even sadder than I realised.

I can only state the facts as I know them, Dario, and I know that you
place numerous topics in various forums that have some sexual
connotation in the topic, not to mention a very odd near 40yo bloke
constanly talking about young nudists.

Didn't you post somewhere recently about a 20yo girl approaching you
and having a conversation with you at a nudist venue about penis
sizes? ....and if that aint odd I don't know what is! But more likely
the fantasy of a perverted soul.

Dario Western in my opinion I think you use the nudist community as a
means to your own ends in communicating with much younger people in a
nude style environment. I think you drive more away from even
considering any form of public nudity for themselves, rather than
attracting them!

Is that watching my mouth enough for you Dario???

You have absolutely no idea how many young nudists stay here.....
pmsl.... a lot I can assure you, but all without me ever trolling the
net, and playing in chat rooms, to attract them.

Furthermore I do not run a Nudist Club. Never have and never will.

I own and operate a business which for part of the year caters for a
Fully Clothed Family Market. Part of the year as a Nudist Resort with
a strict Nude Only Policy, and for 1 month in 2009 a Clothing Optional
Adults Only Resort. Something for everyone, except 40 perverts at any
time Dario!

There is no mixing of any seasons.... and to suggest otherwise is not
only downright silly it's ignorant and ill-informed.

Money making opportunist.... mmm.... perhaps so. I am a businessman
after all, 1st and foremost, who is in the habit of providing great
services and products to satisfy market demands.

That's why my business is so very very successful Dario, and as said
numerous times I don't ever want anybody of your ilk here anyway. You
aint my target market at any time!

Perhaps I should alter one of my slogans which says: "The Comfort
Level Of The Majority Is Always Our Priority." to read: "The Comfort
Level Of The Majority Is Always Our Priority, with the exception of
Dario Western Clones!"

mmm.... I can feel another web page developing for my site...... ;-)

As Peter said "Let people choose where they want to go
vacationing...."

Unbelieveably Dario literally thousands choose to holiday here every
year.... It seems to work for me as well as it does Peter :-)

Tony Fox

@ The White Cockatoo
Web : http://www.thewhitecockatoo.com
Email : ***@thewhitecockatoo.com
Ph. +61 7 40982222
Fax. +61 7 40982221
9 Alchera Drive,
Mossman, Qld 4873,
Australia

TheWhiteCockatoo

2008-12-05 06:19:12 UTC

And just to finish this subject off, as far as I am concerned, there
is absoultely nothing at all to stop you, or anyone else, doing it
better than I do Dario.

What is it you do currently?

Does the fatpizzaman moniker for your myspace page provide a clue?
(well it definitely provides a picture of you if not an occupation.
lol)

There endeth todays lesson ;-)

Neosapienis

2008-12-06 10:06:37 UTC

I work with Domino's. ;-)
--
Best wishes,

Dario Western

(0437) 428-859
http://www.myspace.com/fatpizzaman
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
And just to finish this subject off, as far as I am concerned, there
is absoultely nothing at all to stop you, or anyone else, doing it
better than I do Dario.
What is it you do currently?
Does the fatpizzaman moniker for your myspace page provide a clue?
(well it definitely provides a picture of you if not an occupation.
lol)
There endeth todays lesson ;-)

Terry J. Wood

2008-12-05 22:03:40 UTC

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
You truly pitiful misguided fool Dario Western!

What's that plonking noise I hear?

Neosapienis

2008-12-05 23:01:37 UTC

Hey Tony,

<childish insult snipped>
And if you think I am intimidated by you in any way at all you are
even sadder than I realised.
I can only state the facts as I know them, Dario, and I know that you
place numerous topics in various forums that have some sexual
connotation in the topic, not to mention a very odd near 40yo bloke
constanly talking about young nudists.

That's the pot calling the kettle black. Many nudists see you as
'odd' as well, so I wouldn't start putting labels on other people.

Didn't you post somewhere recently about a 20yo girl approaching you
and having a conversation with you at a nudist venue about penis
sizes? ....and if that aint odd I don't know what is! But more likely
the fantasy of a perverted soul.

Yes, that's correct. I was basically showing this girl up for being
the traitor to the nudist movement that she is. I don't suffer anyone
who takes the piss with or out of me on the net at all.

Dario Western in my opinion I think you use the nudist community as a
means to your own ends in communicating with much younger people in a
nude style environment. I think you drive more away from even
considering any form of public nudity for themselves, rather than
attracting them!

How do you know? You've never met me, least of all witnessed how I
communicate with younger people.

Is that watching my mouth enough for you Dario???
You have absolutely no idea how many young nudists stay here.....
pmsl.... a lot I can assure you, but all without me ever trolling the
net, and playing in chat rooms, to attract them.

So how are you promoting your business to nudists now that the
magazines Sun And Health and The Australian Naturist no longer want to
endorse it? The only nudist I know who is prepared to give you any
support is Rod Tyldsley, the former AS&H editor who failed in his
attempt to salvage the original magazine that his ex-wife Sarah is now
running.

Furthermore I do not run a Nudist Club. Never have and never will.

Then *DON'T* have nudity at your establishment. Nudists and swingers
should be kept apart - as I said before stick with your own kind.

I own and operate a business which for part of the year caters for a
Fully Clothed Family Market. Part of the year as a Nudist Resort with
a strict Nude Only Policy, and for 1 month in 2009 a Clothing Optional
Adults Only Resort. Something for everyone, except 40 perverts at any
time Dario!

See above.

Money making opportunist.... mmm.... perhaps so. I am a businessman
after all, 1st and foremost, who is in the habit of providing great
services and products to satisfy market demands.

Great services? There have been letters published in TAN magazine and
on various nudist groups on Yahoo! that have stated otherwise.

And putting up a website to slander and vilify people on TWC's is a
form of bad business ethics.

Regards,

Dario Western

TheWhiteCockatoo

2008-12-07 07:02:14 UTC

In closing this subject from my point of view, and without continuing
word banter with selective readers, along with the ill-informed and
ignorant... with nothing more than facts presented by me here.

I have been labelled a pervert, an alcoholic, a sex offender, and
numerous other things in all sorts of places in my 7 years as a Nudist
Resort operator.

Apart from one published magazine attack, from a fool who admitted
breaking 3 out of 6 simple (and nudist community accepted and
understood) rules in the 1st sentence of his published attack which
immediately destroyed his credibility, not one single person has
provided any names, dates, places, or witnesses, in any of these
published attacks.

Furthermore not 1 single credible mainstream media publication has
ever published any form of attack on myself personally or my business
without at least a phonecall to check facts or for right of reply,
hence not 1 single credible published attack on either myself
personally, or The White Cockatoo, that I am aware of.

Any person, publication, group, or organisation, that publishes any
attack on an individual or business should always provide at the very
least names, dates, and places, to back up what essentially are their
claims.

So this is where I came in....

I worked out very early on that there is not 1 single publication,
group, or organisation, in Australia (if not the world, with the
exception of a NZ publication) that is deserving of 1 single cent of
my advertising or membership dollar.

I became independent from day 1 and remain so.

These sort of internet groups are dying, as almost every nudist
magazine worldwide is, with memberships and sales well down and in
most cases now not even covering costs.
(Take heart though Nudists.... We're not alone.... Car Clubs, Fishing
Clubs, Bowls Clubs, Rotary, and countless others are all going through
the same worldwide)

And from day 1 I worked out that while it's great to make your
presence known to existing markets, i.e. Nudists, it was also
essential to grow that market to best support my business.

Talk to the mainstream media! Yet another LA interview, drive time top
rating show, to be done this week :-)

I can only say the "stop preaching to the converted, get into
mainstream media" philosophy has worked very successfully for me and
continues to do so.

Any suggestion of any drop in my Nudist business is out of touch with
reality, as it's not something I have ever said. It's more managing
the now known market, and catering for other markets at other times.

It is rather simple really, and I think Dario Western and Pete Knight
would be very very surprised at the people who support my efforts.
Some show their faces, even here as Peter Riden has, but many just
look, listen, and learn....

If every single Oz Nudist publication, group, organisation, or
individual, put all their worldwide reach together over the last 7
years, they would not even come close to the International reach I
have achieved in the same time, if even the last month.

It works for me, and saves me from delivering pizzas.... Sometimes ya
just gotta laugh!

It will be a wonderful book in my retirement..... naturally of course
with names, dates, and places ;-)

Tony Fox

@ The White Cockatoo
Web : http://www.thewhitecockatoo.com
Email : ***@thewhitecockatoo.com
Ph. +61 7 40982222
Fax. +61 7 40982221
9 Alchera Drive,
Mossman, Qld 4873,
Australia

Neosapienis

2008-12-08 09:56:42 UTC

Hi,

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
Apart from one published magazine attack, from a fool who admitted
breaking 3 out of 6 simple (and nudist community accepted and
understood) rules in the 1st sentence of his published attack which
immediately destroyed his credibility, not one single person has
provided any names, dates, places, or witnesses, in any of these
published attacks.

This is what gets to me about a lot of the nudist groups and press -
so much anonymity. Incidents are reported, but one is not allowed to
identify the invididual or the date, time and place where it
occurred. The seqldnudists group is heavily censored in relation to
this, so why bother reporting something if the others don't get to see
the whole picture instead of just a part of it.

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
Furthermore not 1 single credible mainstream media publication has
ever published any form of attack on myself personally or my business
without at least a phonecall to check facts or for right of reply,
hence not 1 single credible published attack on either myself
personally, or The White Cockatoo, that I am aware of.
Any person, publication, group, or organisation, that publishes any
attack on an individual or business should always provide at the very
least names, dates, and places, to back up what essentially are their
claims.

I agree with that.

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
So this is where I came in....
I worked out very early on that there is not 1 single publication,
group, or organisation, in Australia (if not the world, with the
exception of a NZ publication) that is deserving of 1 single cent of
my advertising or membership dollar.
I became independent from day 1 and remain so.
These sort of internet groups are dying, as almost every nudist
magazine worldwide is, with memberships and sales well down and in
most cases now not even covering costs.
(Take heart though Nudists.... We're not alone.... Car Clubs, Fishing
Clubs, Bowls Clubs, Rotary, and countless others are all going through
the same worldwide)

Maybe because the world is starting to change, as it is most people
these days are fed up with politics and internal fighting in between
club members and organisations that they'd rather explore those
activities on their own steam. We also experiencing the outcome of
what was the "Me" generation which is based on selfishness, self-
preservation - sort of like what the punk band the Dead Kennedys once
said "Give me convenience, or give me death".
From a naturist perspective, a lot of people (especially the younger
ones) don't understand why they should have to fork out money for an
organisation for the social and political privilege of getting naked
on the beach or at the lakes.

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
And from day 1 I worked out that while it's great to make your
presence known to existing markets, i.e. Nudists, it was also
essential to grow that market to best support my business.
Talk to the mainstream media! Yet another LA interview, drive time top
rating show, to be done this week :-)
I can only say the "stop preaching to the converted, get into
mainstream media" philosophy has worked very successfully for me and
continues to do so.

Definitely, and this is what I perceive to be wrong with the state of
Australian nudism. Many of them don't want to proselytise to the
general community and go out on a limb, preferring to just go to nude
beaches or clubs to find new members. The majority of established
Australian nudists are well into retirement age and soon will reach a
stage where they are too tired to want to travel anymore. This is why
we need more young blood.

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
If every single Oz Nudist publication, group, organisation, or
individual, put all their worldwide reach together over the last 7
years, they would not even come close to the International reach I
have achieved in the same time, if even the last month.

My former flatmate did state that in order for nudism to grow in
Australia, it will need to have to ditch some of the doctrines that
it's holding on to. Some nudists are still stuck in the 1950's
mentality, but it doesn't work anymore.

TheWhiteCockatoo

2008-12-08 10:35:46 UTC

I agree with that.

Well knock me down with a White Cockatoo feather Dario!

More book content. Many thanks ;-)

Peter Riden

2008-12-08 18:28:53 UTC

Post by Neosapienis
Hi,

I agree with that.

A more cooperative post from you, Dario and it supports that Tony and
I have long understood that what is being carried on by some
disgruntled self-decalred nudists is really out of touch. I often
mention the public at large and Tony also speaks of mainstream out
there.. and this is who we cater too.
There is a lot to agree with when it comes to the words of those who
know better and are not stagnating in a little cocoon.
I would say the tone of this post is more expressing where you should
have been standing all along, Dario.
And again those who can trample our way of life are those who attack
our stance towards responsible freedom, not those who champion such...
I've long been presented by many as Championing Freedom and I believe
that Tony has echoed this desire and stance for quite many years, too.
somtimes you also come with good points when you distance yourself
from that little minority known as The Little Tribe, Dario.
Again... Long live freedom of choice and tough luck for the enemies of
such.
My music: http://www.myspace.com/conceptpeterriden

In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}
http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-network.com
T.W.A.N.'s very own Online Travel Agency
http://www.twanvacations.com
{TGB Conceptor}: http://www.the-grand-barn.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Grand-Barn
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheGrandBarn

Anna

2008-12-08 22:17:03 UTC

Post by Peter Riden

Post by Neosapienis
Hi,

I agree with that.

A more cooperative post from you, Dario and it supports that Tony and
I have long understood that what is being carried on by some
disgruntled self-decalred nudists is really out of touch. I often
mention the public at large and Tony also speaks of mainstream out
there.. and this is who we cater too.
There is a lot to agree with when it comes to the words of those who
know better and are not stagnating in a little cocoon.
I would say the tone of this post is more expressing where you should
have been standing all along, Dario.
And again those who can trample our way of life are those who attack
our stance towards responsible freedom, not those who champion such...
I've long been presented by many as Championing Freedom and I believe
that Tony has echoed this desire and stance for quite many years, too.
somtimes you also come with good points when you distance yourself
from that little minority known as The Little Tribe, Dario.
Again... Long live freedom of choice and tough luck for the enemies of
such.
My music:http://www.myspace.com/conceptpeterriden
In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-network.com
T.W.A.N.'s very own Online Travel Agencyhttp://www.twanvacations.com
{TGB Conceptor}:http://www.the-grand-barn.comhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Grand-Barnhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheGrandBarn

If you want to look to a real enemy of nudism it is Peter Ridden. Why
can't people like him keep nudism and swinging separate.

TheWhiteCockatoo

2008-12-09 07:02:28 UTC

Post by Anna
If you want to look to a real enemy of nudism it is Peter Ridden. Why
can't people like him keep nudism and swinging separate.-

Conversely why do so many self-proclaimed nudists insist on commenting
on something that has nothing at all to do with them?

If there are any real enemies to nudism it is those who think they
have some ownership of the chosen lifestyle of millions of people
worldwide who happen to enjoy some aspect of their life nude when able
and appropriate.

Nobody owns it, or anything even remotely associated with nudism as a
lifestyle choice!

Some of us just cater for it better than others...

As much as Peter Riden has researched me I have researched him and he
is quite correct in his statements that we are both very much on the
same page with most things.... but acknowledged and respected that
definitely not all.

If only some of the holier-than-thou nudists could show the same
respect to others, different from themselves, that they expect for
themselves from mainstream society.

Nudists enemies - Prudie Nudies who think they speak for all nudists.
They don't!

Tony Fox

Terry J. Wood

2008-12-09 20:13:46 UTC

Post by Anna
If you want to look to a real enemy of nudism it is Peter Ridden. Why
can't people like him keep nudism and swinging separate.-

Conversely why do so many self-proclaimed nudists insist on commenting
on something that has nothing at all to do with them?

You might ask the same of self-proclaimed nudists in name only.

Pete Knight

2008-12-13 12:19:29 UTC

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
Nudists enemies - Prudie Nudies who think they speak for all nudists.
They don't!

And you don't of course, no you hide swinging behind nudism because
you're too ashamed to call the White Cockatoo a swingers resort, it
seems you'll do anything for a fast buck.

I'm no prude, but I see nudism as being a family oriented lifestyle,
do you plan to have families at the White Cockatoo for the swingers
month? I have no problems with anyone operating a swingers resort,
good luck to you, just don't hide behind nudism, be honest and call it
what it is.

I like a shag as much as anyone, but I prefer to practice my naturism
in a wholesome environment suitable for everyone.

Pete Knight

TheWhiteCockatoo

2008-12-14 06:05:03 UTC

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
Nudists enemies - Prudie Nudies who think they speak for all nudists.
They don't!

And you don't of course, no you hide swinging behind nudism because
you're too ashamed to call the White Cockatoo a swingers resort, it
seems you'll do anything for a fast buck.
I'm no prude, but I see nudism as being a family oriented lifestyle,
do you plan to have families at the White Cockatoo for the swingers
month? I have no problems with anyone operating a swingers resort,
good luck to you, just don't hide behind nudism, be honest and call it
what it is.
I like a shag as much as anyone, but I prefer to practice my naturism
in a wholesome environment suitable for everyone.
Pete Knight

Unbelievable that you would spend so much time over the years making
comments about us yet you so obviously have not visited our website
http://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/ where we say ourselves exactly what
we do with nothing at all hidden.

Stop being so bloody ill-informed and ignorant and see for yourself
http://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/ instead of relying on rumour and
innuendo.
Oops... Just realised you are a leader in that field ;-)

However, If you have genuine questions after visiting our site
http://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/ then I'd be only too happy to answer
them.

In the meantime.... Get a life!

Tony Fox

Pete Knight

2008-12-14 22:19:30 UTC

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
Nudists enemies - Prudie Nudies who think they speak for all nudists.
They don't!

And you don't of course, no you hide swinging behind nudism because
you're too ashamed to call the White Cockatoo a swingers resort, it
seems you'll do anything for a fast buck.
I'm no prude, but I see nudism as being a family oriented lifestyle,
do you plan to have families at the White Cockatoo for the swingers
month? I have no problems with anyone operating a swingers resort,
good luck to you, just don't hide behind nudism, be honest and call it
what it is.
I like a shag as much as anyone, but I prefer to practice my naturism
in a wholesome environment suitable for everyone.
Pete Knight

Unbelievable that you would spend so much time over the years making
comments about us yet you so obviously have not visited our websitehttp://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/where we say ourselves exactly what
we do with nothing at all hidden.
Stop being so bloody ill-informed and ignorant and see for yourselfhttp://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/instead of relying on rumour and
innuendo.
Oops... Just realised you are a leader in that field ;-)
However, If you have genuine questions after visiting our sitehttp://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/then I'd be only too happy to answer
them.
In the meantime.... Get a life!
Tony Fox

Hi Tony, yes I have visited your web site, I even corresponded with
you until friends told me what you were like, apparently you upset so
many real naturists that you have to turn to swinging to keep the
money coming in, kind of sad really.

And to think I nearly worked for you!!!!!!

Pete Knight

TheWhiteCockatoo

2008-12-18 09:28:22 UTC

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
Nudists enemies - Prudie Nudies who think they speak for all nudists.
They don't!

And you don't of course, no you hide swinging behind nudism because
you're too ashamed to call the White Cockatoo a swingers resort, it
seems you'll do anything for a fast buck.
I'm no prude, but I see nudism as being a family oriented lifestyle,
do you plan to have families at the White Cockatoo for the swingers
month? I have no problems with anyone operating a swingers resort,
good luck to you, just don't hide behind nudism, be honest and call it
what it is.
I like a shag as much as anyone, but I prefer to practice my naturism
in a wholesome environment suitable for everyone.
Pete Knight

Unbelievable that you would spend so much time over the years making
comments about us yet you so obviously have not visited our websitehttp://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/wherewe say ourselves exactly what
we do with nothing at all hidden.
Stop being so bloody ill-informed and ignorant and see for yourselfhttp://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/insteadof relying on rumour and
innuendo.
Oops... Just realised you are a leader in that field ;-)
However, If you have genuine questions after visiting our sitehttp://www.thewhitecockatoo.com/thenI'd be only too happy to answer
them.
In the meantime.... Get a life!
Tony Fox

Hi Tony, yes I have visited your web site, I even corresponded with
you until friends told me what you were like, apparently you upset so
many real naturists that you have to turn to swinging to keep the
money coming in, kind of sad really.
And to think I nearly worked for you!!!!!!
Pete Knight- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

And yet you continue to ask stupid questions.... Laughable really ;-)

Anna

2008-12-09 22:57:47 UTC

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
I have been labelled a pervert, an alcoholic, a sex offender, and
numerous other things in all sorts of places in my 7 years as a Nudist
Resort operator.

And now you prove that you are one.

Well at least a Pervert.

You are no longer a Nudist Resort Operator.

You are a swingers Resort Operator.

You never, ever really believed in nudism.

TheWhiteCockatoo

2008-12-10 07:05:31 UTC

Post by Anna

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
I have been labelled a pervert, an alcoholic, a sex offender, and
numerous other things in all sorts of places in my 7 years as a Nudist
Resort operator.

And now you prove that you are one.
Well at least a Pervert.
You are no longer a Nudist Resort Operator.
You are a swingers Resort Operator.
You never, ever really believed in nudism.

And you base that on what facts Anna???

oh wait.... it's the internet so you can say what you like whether you
have facts to back it up or not.... pmsl

Is it any wonder these sorts of internet groups are dying???

Every couple of years I pop in to a few, have a look around,
occasionally make some comments, then cruise off....

Every time the same sad stories, the same ill-informed and ignorant
attitudes, in many cases the same people, but in all cases in the last
couple of years especially a dramatic drop in intelligent and
informative conversation and debate.

Even wikipedia, which once had some credibility and was highly
regarded, is now nothing more than a farce!

So thank you Anna for adding to this thread and continuing to prove my
thought process correct in that regard. ;-)

BTW.... When do you ever have time to be a nudist yourself Anna???
8000 plus messages in 2 years.... Wow, what a feat....

Avanicenudeday :-)

Anna

2008-12-10 17:06:40 UTC

Post by Anna

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
I have been labelled a pervert, an alcoholic, a sex offender, and
numerous other things in all sorts of places in my 7 years as a Nudist
Resort operator.

And now you prove that you are one.
Well at least a Pervert.
You are no longer a Nudist Resort Operator.
You are a swingers Resort Operator.
You never, ever really believed in nudism.

And you base that on what facts Anna???

The whole world knows you are a Pervert.

And I mean that practically literally as the article about your resort
having an "anything goes month" was circulated far and wide in many
newspaper.

You accomplished your goal of getting publicity for your resort, but
you disgraced nudism in the process.

Look, if you want to make money at your swingers resort, okay,
whatever. Just don't call it a nudist resort or a naturist resort.
And don't call yourself either a nudist or a naturalist because you
aren't. You are just some sleazy guy who runs a swingers resort.

And again, the whole world knows it because the article was in many,
many newspapers.

But I am sure you are just laughing to the bank right?

But please just have the decency not to associate your place with
nudism or naturism. I don't see what that gains you even financially.
The same number and types of people will still come if you call it a
"Adult Lifestyle Resort" or something like that.

Terry J. Wood

2008-12-10 17:12:15 UTC

Post by Anna
You never, ever really believed in nudism.

And you base that on what facts Anna???

Understand that, from everything we can determine, Anna isn't a nudist.
"She" has yet to tell us what nudist events and venues "she" has attended.
Or, for that matter, explained why "her" posts are so similar to Jeff
Jenson's -- both in content and IP addresses.

While free to speak "her" own mind, "she" is hardly an expert on naturism
(or politics or anything else I would guess).

TheWhiteCockatoo

2008-12-10 21:52:53 UTC

Post by Anna
You never, ever really believed in nudism.

And you base that on what facts Anna???

Understand that, from everything we can determine, Anna isn't a nudist.
"She" has yet to tell us what nudist events and venues "she" has attended.
Or, for that matter, explained why "her" posts are so similar to Jeff
Jenson's -- both in content and IP addresses.
While free to speak "her" own mind, "she" is hardly an expert on naturism
(or politics or anything else I would guess).

Thanks for that.
I apologise if I have perpetuated the "Anna" myth by even bothering to
respond to "her" posts. Was perhaps silly of me.
It is interesting to note though just how many people are united on
the exact same thought process re "Anna", even some who would
otherwise strongly disagree on most other subjects :-)

Anna

2008-12-11 19:17:21 UTC

Post by TheWhiteCockatoo
It is interesting to note though just how many people are united on
the exact same thought process re "Anna", even some who would
otherwise strongly disagree on most other subjects :-)

That is because you are going against the spirit of nudism/naturism.
Which would be okay if you just admit that and not portray yourself as
a nudist/naturist. No one is forcing you to be a nudist/naturist.

I just wish that in your interviews that seem to go our literally
worldwide you just clarify that this is the case. You could say that
nudism/naturism is non-sexualized. Nude doesn't have to be lewd. But
we here at the White Cockatoo are lewd. This is not a nudist/naturist
venue and we do not pretend to be. So please do not associate us with
nudism/naturism because that is not what we are trying to do here.
What we are trying to do is to provide a venue for those who are
sexually free-minded to engage in sexual activity with like minded
people. It is an opportunity for people to have sex under the stars,
in the woods, in the grass. Most people don't have the opportunity to
have sex in such an environment and for those who desire such an
experience we are here. So, please don't confuse us as being naturist/
nudist because I know that there are people out there who want to
simply be nude in a non-sexualized atmosphere. But that's not us.

That is all I ask for you because I do believe that places like yours
can serve a good purpose for people of a "sex positive" mindset and I
could see why people might want to have outdoor sex. And indeed unless
you want to risk arrest (though for some that risk is part of what
makes such activity so sexy) most of us lack property to have sex
outside. So I do believe even though I would never be caught dead
there you do provide an important service and you should be allowed to
exist and serve those who desire what you provide.

All I ask is to separate what you do from the nudist/naturist
movement. Why do you think calling yourself nudist/naturist increases
your bottom line anyway? Hedonism II totally makes it clear that they
aren't associated in anyway with nudism/naturism and they are doing
quite fine. So, and I am asking you honestly because I really want to
know the answer to this from the owner of such a place, what does
using the terms nudist/naturist gain you? Please honestly answer that
question. It certainly doesn't provide the benefit of attracting
nudists because they would angrily leave the moment they find out what
you are really all about (and thanks to the publicity most know what
you are all about already_. So please tell me from a bottom line
profit making perspective since that is what you seem all about how
does using the terms nudists and naturists, nudism and naturism
increase your profits? I really want to know your thinking here
because you could certainly call your place a lifestyle club or a
nudity permitted club (without using either the term nudist or
naturist) and I really believe you wouldn't even lose one customer
because of that.

In a way I want more places like yours as them perhaps not so many
swingers will go to nudist resorts. Although when such places come to
existence from changing from a nudist resort then yeah it is sad to
lose another nudist venue, but better that than being dishonest and
protraying a place as something it isn't. That is why places like
Paradise Lakes, Four Seasons (a nudist resort in Canada not the famous
Hotel chain) and possibly Sunsport Gardens should absolutely not have
nudist affiliation. There is room enough for your resort and for
nudist/naturist resorts in this world just not at the same venue. And
there needs to be on the part of resorts honestly as to whether they
provide a sexualized experience (and then they shouldn't call
themselves nudist or naturist or have any nudist or naturist
affiliation) or a nonsexualized experience.

So, why can't you just admit you aren't a nudist or naturist? Please
answer the question. What do you have financially to lose because of
that?

Chris Millbank (Hummingbird)

2008-12-18 22:50:01 UTC

On Wed 10 Dec08 21:52, TheWhiteCockatoo

news:9b96d70b-f611-

Post by Anna
You never, ever really believed in nudism.

And you base that on what facts Anna???

Understand that, from everything we can determine, Anna isn't a nudist.

"She" has yet to tell us what nudist events and venues "she"
has attended

Or, for that matter, explained why "her" posts are so similar
to Jeff Jenson's -- both in content and IP addresses.
While free to speak "her" own mind, "she" is hardly an expert
on naturism (or politics or anything else I would guess).

Thanks for that.
I apologise if I have perpetuated the "Anna" myth by even
bothering to respond to "her" posts. Was perhaps silly of me.
It is interesting to note though just how many people are united
on the exact same thought process re "Anna", even some who would
otherwise strongly disagree on most other subjects :-)

I can see where Anna's coming from. She is too polite to state it
openly but she is upset at your rank hypocrisy.

You present swinging under the guise of a new branch of nudism you
call lewd nudism. What an hypocrite. You might salve the
consciences of those paying good money to have a swingers filth-fest
but at the same time you sully the good name of naturism.

Listen, I've had my time an immoral sexual pervert on homsexual
swinging weekends but at least we called it by what it was.

--
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Me.Here

2008-12-19 01:22:49 UTC

Post by Chris Millbank (Hummingbird)
I can see where Anna's coming from. She is too polite to state it
openly but she is upset at your rank hypocrisy.
You present swinging under the guise of a new branch of nudism you
call lewd nudism. What an hypocrite. You might salve the
consciences of those paying good money to have a swingers filth-fest
but at the same time you sully the good name of naturism.
Listen, I've had my time an immoral sexual pervert on homsexual
swinging weekends but at least we called it by what it was.
--
visit me in alt.comp.freeware

Hummer, good to see ya'. Us queerios need to stick together around here!

--
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aussienudies

2008-12-19 23:13:35 UTC

Post by Neosapienis
Hey Tony,

That's the pot calling the kettle black. Many nudists see you as
'odd' as well, so I wouldn't start putting labels on other people.

Yes, that's correct. I was basically showing this girl up for being
the traitor to the nudist movement that she is. I don't suffer anyone
who takes the piss with or out of me on the net at all.

How do you know? You've never met me, least of all witnessed how I
communicate with younger people.

Furthermore I do not run a Nudist Club. Never have and never will.

Then *DON'T* have nudity at your establishment. Nudists and swingers
should be kept apart - as I said before stick with your own kind.

See above.

Money making opportunist.... mmm.... perhaps so. I am a businessman
after all, 1st and foremost, who is in the habit of providing great
services and products to satisfy market demands.

Great services? There have been letters published in TAN magazine and
on various nudist groups on Yahoo! that have stated otherwise.
And putting up a website to slander and vilify people on TWC's is a
form of bad business ethics.
Regards,
Dario Western

If there are any odd nudists out there, then you would have to fit the
bill Dario.

How does a young girl talking about penis size make her a traitor to the
nudist movement? If men talk about penis size, then are they traitors
as well? Who really cares about penis size? It seems that you might be
the one with penis size issues.

Dario, when are you going to wake up and realise that there is no nudist
movement. It's just people of all ages and walks of life enjoying
various activities in a clothed free environment. Activities could
include bush walking, swimming, sport or even sex. There are no hard
and fast rules. People do what they like and enjoy.

If resorts like TWC expand their customer target base to include people
with specific interests, then that is good business strategy. Perhaps
if more so called nudist resorts did likewise, then they would be more
viable.

We are not swingers, but we have nudist friends who are swingers. They
are great friends and don't push their sexual interests onto us. We
have also met alot of nudists on our journeys who are swingers. It
would seem to us that there is a significant proportion of nudists who
swing. We don't care, we just do our thing and they do theirs and
everyone seems to get on okay.

We are not religious either, but we don't recall meeting very many
religious people on our travels. If we did, we would also accept them
provided they did not push their religious beliefs onto us like so many
try and do.

Stuffed Tiger

2008-12-20 03:12:57 UTC

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:13:35 GMT, aussienudies
<***@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

...

If there are any odd nudists out there, ...

There are no odd nudists. Even Dario. :-)

Compared to textiles, that is; I mean those with the textile fetish
they call modesty. But then, you knew that, didn't you.

Neosapienis

2008-12-20 05:30:10 UTC

Post by Neosapienis
Hey Tony,

That's the pot calling the kettle black. Many nudists see you as
'odd' as well, so I wouldn't start putting labels on other people.

Yes, that's correct. I was basically showing this girl up for being
the traitor to the nudist movement that she is. I don't suffer anyone
who takes the piss with or out of me on the net at all.

How do you know? You've never met me, least of all witnessed how I
communicate with younger people.

Furthermore I do not run a Nudist Club. Never have and never will.

Then *DON'T* have nudity at your establishment. Nudists and swingers
should be kept apart - as I said before stick with your own kind.

See above.

Money making opportunist.... mmm.... perhaps so. I am a businessman
after all, 1st and foremost, who is in the habit of providing great
services and products to satisfy market demands.

Great services? There have been letters published in TAN magazine and
on various nudist groups on Yahoo! that have stated otherwise.
And putting up a website to slander and vilify people on TWC's is a
form of bad business ethics.
Regards,
Dario Western

If there are any odd nudists out there, then you would have to fit the
bill Dario.
How does a young girl talking about penis size make her a traitor to the
nudist movement? If men talk about penis size, then are they traitors
as well? Who really cares about penis size? It seems that you might be
the one with penis size issues.
Dario, when are you going to wake up and realise that there is no nudist
movement. It's just people of all ages and walks of life enjoying
various activities in a clothed free environment. Activities could
include bush walking, swimming, sport or even sex. There are no hard
and fast rules. People do what they like and enjoy.
If resorts like TWC expand their customer target base to include people
with specific interests, then that is good business strategy. Perhaps
if more so called nudist resorts did likewise, then they would be more
viable.
We are not swingers, but we have nudist friends who are swingers. They
are great friends and don't push their sexual interests onto us. We
have also met alot of nudists on our journeys who are swingers. It
would seem to us that there is a significant proportion of nudists who
swing. We don't care, we just do our thing and they do theirs and
everyone seems to get on okay.
We are not religious either, but we don't recall meeting very many
religious people on our travels. If we did, we would also accept them
provided they did not push their religious beliefs onto us like so many
try and do.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Hi Wayne,

Nudists of both genders are not supposed to be concerned about penis
size, least of all choose their partners dependent on that. The girl
in question dumped her first boyfriend for her current one because he
had a larger penis than the previous one. Added to that, she also
went for him because he had inherited millions of dollars from his
grandad who owned the nudist resort she met him at whilst her previous
b/f was a uni student. It does not paint her in a very good light if
those are the only traits she looks for in a guy - especially after
her folks raised her to be a nudist. I'm not making any of this up -
this is from a real life conversation with her on MSN.

There *is* such a thing as the nudist movement. It is a multi-million
strong force of people around the world who practice being naked and
are after more opportunities to do so outside of traditional clubs and
their homes. Do you think that the likes of the ANF, FBA, INF, and
the AANR and TNS are fictitious?

But you are quite right with your last statement: it is different
strokes for different folks. People should be able to go nude in
contexts with what pertains to their own interests in life - if they
want to nude up at a country club or a public beach, or in a city park
or health and leisure centre then that should be their right to as
well. Europeans enjoy nudity on a much more grander and widespread
scale, and I think it is time that Australians and Americans caught up
with them.

I don't care what Tony Fox of TWC does with his swinger parties as
such, but when he mixes them with nudity it gives the mainstream
public and the wowsers the paradigm that "nudity equates sexual
anarchy" which does not do the nudist scene justice here and fuels
prejudice against us. That is why there needs to be a divide between
nudists and swingers in my honest opinion.

Best wishes,

Dario Western

Zee

2008-12-20 07:04:07 UTC

Post by Neosapienis
Hey Tony,

That's the pot calling the kettle black. Many nudists see you as
'odd' as well, so I wouldn't start putting labels on other people.

Yes, that's correct. I was basically showing this girl up for being
the traitor to the nudist movement that she is. I don't suffer anyone
who takes the piss with or out of me on the net at all.

How do you know? You've never met me, least of all witnessed how I
communicate with younger people.

Furthermore I do not run a Nudist Club. Never have and never will.

Then *DON'T* have nudity at your establishment. Nudists and swingers
should be kept apart - as I said before stick with your own kind.

See above.

Money making opportunist.... mmm.... perhaps so. I am a businessman
after all, 1st and foremost, who is in the habit of providing great
services and products to satisfy market demands.

Great services? There have been letters published in TAN magazine and
on various nudist groups on Yahoo! that have stated otherwise.
And putting up a website to slander and vilify people on TWC's is a
form of bad business ethics.
Regards,
Dario Western

If there are any odd nudists out there, then you would have to fit the
bill Dario.
How does a young girl talking about penis size make her a traitor to the
nudist movement? If men talk about penis size, then are they traitors
as well? Who really cares about penis size? It seems that you might be
the one with penis size issues.
Dario, when are you going to wake up and realise that there is no nudist
movement. It's just people of all ages and walks of life enjoying
various activities in a clothed free environment. Activities could
include bush walking, swimming, sport or even sex. There are no hard
and fast rules. People do what they like and enjoy.
If resorts like TWC expand their customer target base to include people
with specific interests, then that is good business strategy. Perhaps
if more so called nudist resorts did likewise, then they would be more
viable.
We are not swingers, but we have nudist friends who are swingers. They
are great friends and don't push their sexual interests onto us. We
have also met alot of nudists on our journeys who are swingers. It
would seem to us that there is a significant proportion of nudists who
swing. We don't care, we just do our thing and they do theirs and
everyone seems to get on okay.
We are not religious either, but we don't recall meeting very many
religious people on our travels. If we did, we would also accept them
provided they did not push their religious beliefs onto us like so many
try and do.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Hi Wayne,
Nudists of both genders are not supposed to be concerned about penis
size, least of all choose their partners dependent on that. The girl
in question dumped her first boyfriend for her current one because he
had a larger penis than the previous one. Added to that, she also
went for him because he had inherited millions of dollars from his
grandad who owned the nudist resort she met him at whilst her previous
b/f was a uni student. It does not paint her in a very good light if
those are the only traits she looks for in a guy - especially after
her folks raised her to be a nudist. I'm not making any of this up -
this is from a real life conversation with her on MSN.
There *is* such a thing as the nudist movement. It is a multi-million
strong force of people around the world who practice being naked and
are after more opportunities to do so outside of traditional clubs and
their homes. Do you think that the likes of the ANF, FBA, INF, and
the AANR and TNS are fictitious?
But you are quite right with your last statement: it is different
strokes for different folks. People should be able to go nude in
contexts with what pertains to their own interests in life - if they
want to nude up at a country club or a public beach, or in a city park
or health and leisure centre then that should be their right to as
well. Europeans enjoy nudity on a much more grander and widespread
scale, and I think it is time that Australians and Americans caught up
with them.
I don't care what Tony Fox of TWC does with his swinger parties as
such, but when he mixes them with nudity it gives the mainstream
public and the wowsers the paradigm that "nudity equates sexual
anarchy" which does not do the nudist scene justice here and fuels
prejudice against us. That is why there needs to be a divide between
nudists and swingers in my honest opinion.
Best wishes,
Dario Western- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

i feel your pain Dario.....the nature of the beast puts you at an
extreme disadvantage to your life long pursuit of pushing the
movement....i bet you wish you could have picked a more socially
friendly behavior....too late now to change...huh....jz

Me.Here

2008-12-20 10:15:30 UTC

Post by Neosapienis
Hi Wayne,
Nudists of both genders are not supposed to be concerned about penis
size, least of all choose their partners dependent on that. The girl
in question dumped her first boyfriend for her current one because he
had a larger penis than the previous one. Added to that, she also
went for him because he had inherited millions of dollars from his
grandad who owned the nudist resort she met him at whilst her previous
b/f was a uni student. It does not paint her in a very good light if
those are the only traits she looks for in a guy - especially after
her folks raised her to be a nudist. I'm not making any of this up -
this is from a real life conversation with her on MSN.

What an idiot! Married Johhny Wad with money.

Post by Neosapienis
There *is* such a thing as the nudist movement. It is a multi-million
strong force of people around the world who practice being naked..

It takes practice?

Post by Neosapienis
But you are quite right with your last statement: it is different
strokes for different folks.

If you really must fellate me,
Though the thought appalls;
Remember work the shaft
And cup the balls.

http://tr.im/1f71

aussienudies

2008-12-21 09:24:52 UTC

Post by Neosapienis
Hey Tony,

That's the pot calling the kettle black. Many nudists see you as
'odd' as well, so I wouldn't start putting labels on other people.

Yes, that's correct. I was basically showing this girl up for being
the traitor to the nudist movement that she is. I don't suffer anyone
who takes the piss with or out of me on the net at all.

How do you know? You've never met me, least of all witnessed how I
communicate with younger people.

Furthermore I do not run a Nudist Club. Never have and never will.

Then *DON'T* have nudity at your establishment. Nudists and swingers
should be kept apart - as I said before stick with your own kind.

See above.

Money making opportunist.... mmm.... perhaps so. I am a businessman
after all, 1st and foremost, who is in the habit of providing great
services and products to satisfy market demands.

Great services? There have been letters published in TAN magazine and
on various nudist groups on Yahoo! that have stated otherwise.
And putting up a website to slander and vilify people on TWC's is a
form of bad business ethics.
Regards,
Dario Western

If there are any odd nudists out there, then you would have to fit the
bill Dario.
How does a young girl talking about penis size make her a traitor to the
nudist movement? If men talk about penis size, then are they traitors
as well? Who really cares about penis size? It seems that you might be
the one with penis size issues.
Dario, when are you going to wake up and realise that there is no nudist
movement. It's just people of all ages and walks of life enjoying
various activities in a clothed free environment. Activities could
include bush walking, swimming, sport or even sex. There are no hard
and fast rules. People do what they like and enjoy.
If resorts like TWC expand their customer target base to include people
with specific interests, then that is good business strategy. Perhaps
if more so called nudist resorts did likewise, then they would be more
viable.
We are not swingers, but we have nudist friends who are swingers. They
are great friends and don't push their sexual interests onto us. We
have also met alot of nudists on our journeys who are swingers. It
would seem to us that there is a significant proportion of nudists who
swing. We don't care, we just do our thing and they do theirs and
everyone seems to get on okay.
We are not religious either, but we don't recall meeting very many
religious people on our travels. If we did, we would also accept them
provided they did not push their religious beliefs onto us like so many
try and do.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Hi Wayne,
Nudists of both genders are not supposed to be concerned about penis
size, least of all choose their partners dependent on that. The girl
in question dumped her first boyfriend for her current one because he
had a larger penis than the previous one. Added to that, she also
went for him because he had inherited millions of dollars from his
grandad who owned the nudist resort she met him at whilst her previous
b/f was a uni student. It does not paint her in a very good light if
those are the only traits she looks for in a guy - especially after
her folks raised her to be a nudist. I'm not making any of this up -
this is from a real life conversation with her on MSN.
There *is* such a thing as the nudist movement. It is a multi-million
strong force of people around the world who practice being naked and
are after more opportunities to do so outside of traditional clubs and
their homes. Do you think that the likes of the ANF, FBA, INF, and
the AANR and TNS are fictitious?
But you are quite right with your last statement: it is different
strokes for different folks. People should be able to go nude in
contexts with what pertains to their own interests in life - if they
want to nude up at a country club or a public beach, or in a city park
or health and leisure centre then that should be their right to as
well. Europeans enjoy nudity on a much more grander and widespread
scale, and I think it is time that Australians and Americans caught up
with them.
I don't care what Tony Fox of TWC does with his swinger parties as
such, but when he mixes them with nudity it gives the mainstream
public and the wowsers the paradigm that "nudity equates sexual
anarchy" which does not do the nudist scene justice here and fuels
prejudice against us. That is why there needs to be a divide between
nudists and swingers in my honest opinion.
Best wishes,
Dario Western

Just because somebody is brought up in a nudist environment, doesn't
mean they have instilled in them higher morals and values. Same applies
to some who are raised in a religious environment. Nudists are no more
better people than anybody else. Maybe the girl you refer to was being
honest in that she preferred well hung men. If so, who cares...get over
it Dario. There's more to life than worrying about such petty crap.

While I'm not familiar with all the groups you mentioned, I don't think
the FBA and ANF are strong forces. They couldn't even get an already
long accepted nudist beach at Alex Bay legalised. The ongoing
infighting and power struggles in such groups does more to deter people
from getting involved in the lifestyle.

Further, I don't agree with your unrealistic views that people should
have the right to go nude where they feel fit. Sensible nudists accept
they they share the beaches etc with other majority textile people and
should respect that they have a legal right to use those areas. Nudists
generally do not have a legal right to use those places unless
designated by the authorities.

I thing you continue to live in wonderland Dario. Laws are there to
protect everyone, and like it or not, most people probably don't want to
be confronted by your nude body as much as anybody else.

Neosapienis

2008-12-22 09:36:26 UTC

Hi,

The thing is it goes against the nudist philosophy of body acceptance. I
have mentioned this girl to other nudists on groups that I am on and 99.9%
were incredulous that she calls herself a nudist after what she had said.

While I'm not familiar with all the groups you mentioned, I don't think
the FBA and ANF are strong forces. They couldn't even get an already long
accepted nudist beach at Alex Bay legalised. The ongoing infighting and
power struggles in such groups does more to deter people from getting
involved in the lifestyle.

That's true. Until they manage to sort out their differences then nothing's
going to change. I am subscribed to the FBA and since the change of the
committee from Anita Grigg to Traven Searle I have not received one
newsletter from them, and none of them even post to the Yahoo! Group except
for Michael McNamara. So, I'm wondering what the go is.

Further, I don't agree with your unrealistic views that people should have
the right to go nude where they feel fit. Sensible nudists accept they
they share the beaches etc with other majority textile people and should
respect that they have a legal right to use those areas. Nudists
generally do not have a legal right to use those places unless designated
by the authorities.

There are some places where nudity is not practical mainly for safety
reasons. Have a look at the cybernude.com site for a list of things and
contexts where nudity is not appropriate. But I don't see why politicians
should have any stronghold over nudists than any other people. In Denmark
nudists can go nude virtually anywhere they want on beaches (except on two
of them), so why can't Australian nudists have the same rights? Being naked
on the beach does not harm or endanger anybody - in fact it's more sensible
to swim naked in the ocean than wearing saggy bathers.

I thing you continue to live in wonderland Dario. Laws are there to
protect everyone, and like it or not, most people probably don't want to
be confronted by your nude body as much as anybody else.

Well they've just got to learn that we are all born that way. The prudes
can get well and truly fucked in my opinion if they don't like it.

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Dario Western

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Me.Here

2008-12-22 10:25:23 UTC

Post by aussienudies
I thing you continue to live in wonderland Dario. Laws are there to
protect everyone, and like it or not, most people probably don't want to
be confronted by your nude body as much as anybody else.

Well they've just got to learn that we are all born that way.

Same bullshit rehashed "baby butt" crap. Tiresome and irelevant.

Post by Neosapienis
The prudes
can get well and truly fucked in my opinion if they don't like it.

Aren't you a champ.

NOT.

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Me.Here

2008-12-22 10:23:20 UTC

Post by aussienudies
Further, I don't agree with your unrealistic views that people should
have the right to go nude where they feel fit. Sensible nudists accept
they they share the beaches etc with other majority textile people and
should respect that they have a legal right to use those areas. Nudists
generally do not have a legal right to use those places unless
designated by the authorities, Dario

Now we are down to the nut showing. Defy the law to progress nudism or
complain on Usenet.

In much of the universe, I see very little by percentage of nut showing
to show up the laws.

Spot on,, matey.

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Anna

2008-12-30 20:55:37 UTC